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I just wanted to see, if anyone in the group is researching the 
Olague surname. I am doing quite a bit of research, on the Olagues, 
especially in Colotlan. And I am willing, to share information.
  

This last trip to FHL in SLC has confirmed our dreaded suspicions.  
Our linage follows Jose Cresencio Mota married to Rafael de los 
Merced Serreno and not Maria de los Merced Serrano.  Fortunately the 
Serrano linage is okay.  Maria de los Merced Serrano parents are Jose 
Maria Guadalupe ZERRANO Robles and Maria Casilda MOTA Carlos and our 
new Rafael de los Merced SERRANO Albares  parents are Juan Jose 
SERRANO Robles and Maria Luisa ALBARES.  Yes, Juan Jose SERRANO 
Robles and Jose Maria Guadalupe ZERRANO Robles are sons to Jose 
Alancio SERRANO and Dominga De ROBLES Sanchez.

We have 11 documents for the J. Maria Guadalupe ZERRANO Robles/Maria 
Casilda MOTA family. m. 14 Aug 1810

We have 10 documents for the Jose Alanacio SERANNO/Dominga de ROBLES 
family, m. 29 May 1781

We have 8 documents for the Jose Crescencio Nepomuseno MOTA/Rafael de 
los Merced SERRANO  m. 22 May 1852

Is anyone else working on the above lineages?  Do you confirm our new 
findings?  We are keeping the documents for Zerrano/Casilda MOTA 
since we have Jose Cresencio MOTA still and hopefully will connect. 
If anyone needs copies of any of the documents, let me know and after 
the Holidays I can scan them and send them off.  Does anyone have 
copies of documents for the Juan Jose SERRANO Robles and Maria Luisa 
ALBARES m. 16 Jul 1827 family?

Kitty Cortez
kcortez@...

welcome to the group. I also have a Sandoval line that comes out of
Tepetongo. Unfortuneately I only have one name:

me-->AntonioPuentes-->JulioPuentes-->JulioPuentes-->CecilioPuentes/DomingaVarela-->
-->EsiquioVarela-->VictorVarela/MarcelaSandoval

so my GGGG grandmother out of Tepetongo was Marcela Sandoval

anyway I'm glad you made a possible connection and I would like to keep
track of the various ones that make connections. It just makes me feel
good to see others [including myself] gain some benefit.

My prima, Angie, sent a message out awhile back that summarized the
various ones that made connections. I'll try to hunt it up unless
someone has it handy and can forward it to me. I know for a fact that
there have been new connections made since that time.

One being that which Rosalinda Ruiz and I have made on our Banuelos
line. It seems we have a common grandparents in Jacinto Banuelos/Bartola
de la Torre also out of Tepetongo.

How about everyone in the group that has made a connection send me [or
to the group] a brief message that lists the connections they have
made.Unless Angie wants to volunteer and have everyone send her any new
connections and she can send out another nice summary.

however we decide I'd like to keep track of things. That way later we'll
have lot of clicks in the group and have intergroup arguments like
between the Banuelos and the Sandovals or the Romero's and such.

Hi! I'm new here so let me begin by introducing myself. My name is 
Vanessa Sandoval and i live in Los Angeles, Ca where i was born and 
raised. My parents have lives here since 1971 when they left their 
home of El Remolino, Zacatecas. I was asigned a few years ago to do a 
family tree for a school project and i was so fasinated by all the 
history that i guess i never stopped researching. 
   My Geneology records include the names of Sandoval, Ocampo, Luna, 
Perez, Haro, and Saucedo. There's a few more but i guess those are 
the primary ones. I will try to upload into the files area what i 
have so far, by the end of this week and i have actuall already found 
a name in someones file that cross lists with mine :) so i am very 
excited about that. Thank you for taking me in and i hope to make 
this a very productive experiece. 

Vanessa 

http://members.tripod.com/%7EGaryFelix/index63.htm

also consider being part of this database:

http://www.smgf.org/index.jsp

Hi all!  Just wanted to take a quick minute and introduce myself.  
My name is Peggy Delgado and I'm currently searching for the 
surnames of Aguirre (not sure of the spelling), Ynostrosa 
(spelling?  I know there's different variations of that name!)Correa 
and Ortega.   Aguirre and Correa in Tlaltenango, Zacatecas, Ortega 
somewhere else in Zacatecas and Ynostrosa in Sierra Mojada, 
Coahuila. I've ordered microfilms from the FHC for 
1914 for Tlaltenango.   My grandfather (my dad's dad), Jacinto 
Pineda was born there on 8/14/14 to Maria Correa and Baudelio 
Aguirre.  Story goes that Baudelio went off to fight with Pancho 
Villa and was never heard from again.  My great-grandma Marie 
married Juan Pineda (he supposedly adopted my grandad and gave him 
his name, Pineda - but when the got married and where is a mystery.  
Baudelio Aguirre is also a mystery....who knows what I'll find with 
those FHC films!  But I'm very excited.....

Next I'm searching for records of my mom's dad, my grandad, who was 
also born in Zacatecas - but where I don't know.  His name is Jesus 
Ortega-Soliz.  I've also order that film for the year of 1897.  
We'll see what that brings.

And lastly, but definately not least, I'm searching for my mom's 
mother's, my grandma's records.  Her name is Paula Mendez-Ortega.
She was born in Sierra Mojada, Coahuila.  Her father's name was 
Manuel Mendez and she had two brothers, Lorenzo and Juan.  Her 
mother, Luciana Ynostrosa, died when Juan was born.  I've order the 
microfilms for the year 1913.

I've been researching since her death in 1992.  She practically 
raised me and thought I owed it to her memory to bring alive her 
past - that's how I got into researching my family tree.  I'm 
thrilled to be a part of this group and hope I can help and be 
helped here.  All my records I will share with no reservations.  
and, when I learn how, I will download my family tree.  

Muchisimas gracias for letting me in!!!

Peggy 

http://lanic.utexas.edu/project/tavera/mexico/

In the libro de defuciones (Deaths) what does the the phrase " por 
cruz alta" or " Cruz Bajo" mean ?  Also I hav seen reference to money 
or "Alms" paid?   for example "en fabrica de dos Reales".....
 any help abbreciated..

I have also always seen Vecinos de ******  as being neighbors and 
then usually the Rancho is named. 






--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Pacorro73@a... wrote:
> As far as I know vecino means "resident," as of a particular town.  
My Nuevo 
> Espasa Ilustrado Dictionary defines vecino as "adj, s. 1. Que 
habita con otros 
> en un mismo pueblo, barrio o casa. 2. Cercano."  So there.  This so 
called 
> "expert" was probaby confusing the fact that after an Indian was 
converted, 
> he/she could no longer live out in the wild among other Indians.  
He/she had to 
> live at the mission, thus becoming a "vecino," a resident, of said 
mission, just 
> like all the other residents or inhabitants of the mission like the 
> Spaniards, mestizos, and slaves.
> 
> The little cross (+) used on the margins of archives or after 
someone's name 
> simply means that the person has passed away.  It is common usage 
in Spanish 
> writing to refer to Fulano de Tal (+), with the little cross after 
his/her 
> name, to indicate that the person is dead.  I see it frequently 
when reading 
> Spanish books or articles.
> 
> Steven H.

I would like some help with an abbreviation I've found and havent 
been able to read... the Bautismo entry reads as follows:

En la yglesia Parrpquia de SS Jose de Guehucar en Onze de Marzo de 
Noventa y Ocho Yo el B* D* Jose del Valle Cpp. ........ 

The abbreviation that  is pestering me is the B*. 
D* is surely "Don"  but the B* may be an abbreviation for a religious 
title or something else...??

Gloria thanks so much for the info on Aguascalientes. It is coming just
in time as I recently found out that one of my GGGG grandparents, Pedro
Torres [see attachment] was originally from "la villa de Aguascalientes."

oh and the second link has a slight misspelling so here is the corrected
link:

http://www.muniags.gob.mx/historico/haciendacieneguilla.asp

I just put the links in the links section of the group. Thanks

joseph

For members interested in Aguascalientes, you might check out their
excellent webpage: http://www.muniags.gob.mx Click on the various
icons across the top to check out different sites.

Or, you can check out the various haciendas or ex-haciendas directly;
a brief historical description is given of each at:
http://www.muniags.gob.mx/hisorico/haciendacieneguilla.asp This also
links to the other ex-haciendas.

Gloria

I think I recall somebody asking for maps of Mexico way back when...
here is a link to early maps in Mexico:

http://www.library.ci.corpus-christi.tx.us/earlymaps.htm

I would, also, be interested in the missing Sombrerete records.  My 
great grandmother was born there and I believe her parents were, 
also, born there.  Her name was Ynes Salas [b: about 1845].  Her 
parents were Jose Maria Salas and Urbana Ruelas.  I can't go any 
further back at this point.

<Contact John Schmal he is the historian for Somos Primos and he 
<and I had done some research together and he knows the scoop 
<on the records that are missing.  For some reason I remember 
<him telling me these records can be found in Las Cruces, New 
<Mexico.

I live in Las Cruces, NM.  Tell me what records I need to look for.

Gloria