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Hola Jose,

No das suficiente informacion acerca de esta pareja. De donde son o eran, en que periodo o de que años. De cual estado de Mexico?

Alicia,
San Jose, Ca

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Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Matrimonio de Isidro Sanchez y Santos Reynoso

Hola a todos los miembros de nuestros ranchos, me gustaria saber si ustedes tienen conocimiento de este matrimonio ya que no e podido encotrar nada, agradecere mucho si alguien me puede ayudar -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
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DE Que lugar? Se escucha de Calvillo, Ags?
Soto y Ordorica especialmente eran muy prominante en Teocaltiche yo vengo de estas familias.
-Daniel

> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: Galahad6@yahoo.com
> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 20:01:19 -0800
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Busco estos apellidos y nombres en otros arboles genealogicos.
>
> Nestor Soto o Zoto 1866-1938
> Demetria Macias 18??-1971
> Fidel Ramos ????-????
> Maria Vega ????-????
>
> Maurilio Gomez ????-1984
> Jesus Ordorica Olmos 1904?- 1941
>
> Si alguien los tienes talvez se podria juntar nuestras familias.
>
> muchas gracias!!
>
> Victor

I think someone on this forum has mentioned this Fabrica before. I think it used to be a place where they made cloth -- a textile plant.

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA
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Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 4:35 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] La Fabrica

Hi - I found some baptismal records of my great-great grandfather, and they
said he was from "La Fabrica" close to Guadalupe, Zacatecas, I think. Has
anyone heard of this? Is it a colonia or a rancho in Zacatecas?

It looks like "La Fabrica" is part of the Municipality of Mazapil,
Zacatecas. It has 362 inhabitants.

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Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] La Fabrica

Hi - I found some baptismal records of my great-great grandfather, and they
said he was from "La Fabrica" close to Guadalupe, Zacatecas, I think. Has
anyone heard of this? Is it a colonia or a rancho in Zacatecas?

Would there be someone who would volunteer to extract out (and perhaps even transliterate into modern Spanish) the census of the 400 Tlaxcalan families who migrated to the Gran Chichimeca?

I wasn't able to open up the letter. Can you help me find it?
I should be able to read it.
Stanley A Lucero

Hola...busco ancestros del estado de Zacatecas y Aguascalientes, de apellido ELIZALDE y BORREGO....alguien me puede ayudar???

GREGORIO ELIZALDE b) 1823 Aguascalientes
+1848 Aguascalientes

ANACLETA SALAS b) 1827 Aguascalientes

Bill-

Thank you so much for the trouble and expense you went through to find this out for us. I had traced my husband's family back to Encarnacion de Diaz, and other places in Jalisco, then found in records in microfilms mention that many of them had come from Aquascalientes originally in the early 1700s. I had looked and looked in many Aguacalientes films and never found them, now I know why.

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA
----- Original Message -----
From: bill_figueroa@usa.net
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 9:59 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] What ever happened to the missing 1719-1733baptismal records from Aguascalientes?

To: all members of Nuestros Ranchos

Te following excerpts are from a letter I sent to the Family History Library in Salt Lake City, UT in August of 2008. It contains important information for those focusing their research in Aguascalientes. Since I didn't get a reply or noticed any corrective action

Wow!!!! I don't have any ancestors in Aguascalientes but you are a
real blessing to this group, Bill! Without your sleuthing and
determination, we would not have known where to find the assets and
documents named in your letter. What a wonderful New Year's gift!
Sincerely, Marge:)

On Dec 31, 2009, at 11:59 AM, bill_figueroa@usa.net wrote:

To: all members of Nuestros Ranchos

Te following excerpts are from a letter I sent to the Family History
Library in Salt Lake City, UT in August of 2008. It contains
important information for those focusing their research in
Aguascalientes. Since I didn't get a reply or noticed any corrective
action taken, I decided to post it in this forum for the benefit of
all members of Nuestros Ranchos.

"For several years I had been trying to find the baptismal record of
my 4th great grandfather Vicente Ruiz de Esparza, but soon realized
that it was missing. As a matter of fact, all the baptisms of
“Españoles” from 1719-1733

Hi there Texn 4 ,

I don´t know if you recieved the Mexican goverment web site for Military records . They have records dating back quite a bit and all you have to do is send them the full name and year exact or approximately and they will send you the information of that individual .

Welester G. Alvarado

> I just found a great find through doing some google.com.mx searches this past weekend in relation to Imperial Orders of Mexico. It appears that there was an Almanaque Imperial produced during the reign of Maximiliano y Carlota. The one I found was from the year 1866, when Imperial control reached its full extent in Mexico.
>
> There is a wealth of information, especially names to be found. Among them is military information that seems so hard for many of us to get to. For example, the comisarios imperiales are listed. The area we are looking into was divided between the Tercera Division, its capital being San Luis Potosi. The area, while including San Luis

Se me olvidaba el ultimo hijo:

Maria Soledad Pro Romo, ch. 26 April 1873, Santo Domingo, Zacatecas, [Batch #
C606143, (1873-1874), Serial # 00112, filme 0245044].

Esther Jordan Lopez
esther@enhanced.org

On January 26, 2010 at 4:28 AM frio@prodigy.net.mx wrote:

> Estoy investigando el apellido Pro de Zacatecas,
> al parecer dedicados a la mineria, el registro mas antiguo que tengo es el
> nacimiento de Alberto Pro Romo  abril de 1861 en la Cd. de Zacatecas, hijo de
> Hilario Pro (1836) y Ricarda Romo (1839) mucho agradeceré si alguien se ha
> topado con este apellido.

Hola! 
No se tu nombre pero bien, aqui te mando informacion sobre la familia de Hilario
Pro y Ricarda Romo.  Espero pueda servirte.

Ellos tuvieron los siguientes hijos:

Gregorio Proo Romo, ch. 18 May 1859, Santo Domingo, Zacatecas,[Batch # C600783
(1859-1861), Serial # 000768, filme 0245035]

Alberto Pro Romo, ch. 5 May 1861, Santo Domingo, Zacatecas, [Batch # C600783
(1859-1861), Serial # 01667, filme 0245035], Extraction record #297, batch
C73807-2, yr 1897 p. 140, source IBIR.  Alberto caso con Isabel Sandoval 16 Oct
1882, Santo Domingo, Zacatecas

Je. Aurelio Ricardo Rios Romo, ch. 21 November 1863, Santo Domingo, Zacatecas,
[Batch # C600785 (1863-1864), Serial # 02061, filme 0245037].

Paulino Pro Romo, ch. 6 July 1868, Santo Domingo, Zacatecas, [Batch # C600787
(1868-1869), Serial # 00294, filme 0245039].

Ma. Soledad Pro Romo, ch. 5 December 1869, Santo Domingo, Zacatecas, [Batch #
C600788 (1870-1871), Serial # 02036, filme 0245040].

Je. Luis Pro Romo, ch. 15 January 1871

Do you happened to have any records for Ojuelos De Jalisco from 1886 to 1900?

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Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 11:06 AM
To: announce@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Coahuila and Nuevo Leon Films

I have uploaded a large number of batch numbers for Coahuila and Nuevo Leon to the films database on Nuestros Ranchos. Given that many Nuestros Ranchos members have ancestry in those states, particularly those whose families ended up in Texas, I think these should be very useful to the membership.

If you have any films from those states on permanent loan, please go into the database and indicate so. I will try to get San Luis Potosi and some other northern states into the database in the near future as well.

ESPANOL

He subido una gran cantidad de números batch de Coahuila y Nuevo León a la base de datos

Please consider Jalisco's and Zacatecas next door neighbor - Nayarit!
Nevertheless, "thank you" for expanding NR's data base.

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arturo.ramos2@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 9:06 AM
To: announce@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Coahuila and Nuevo Leon Films

I have uploaded a large number of batch numbers for Coahuila and Nuevo Leon
to the films database on Nuestros Ranchos. Given that many Nuestros Ranchos
members have ancestry in those states, particularly those whose families
ended up in Texas, I think these should be very useful to the membership.

If you have any films from those states on permanent loan, please go into
the database and indicate so. I will try to get San Luis Potosi and some
other northern states into the database in the near future as well.

ESPANOL

He subido una gran cantidad de números

Edit: Double post.

Not sure if our ancestors could be related, but I do have a Jose Maria Rojas in my family tree that was in Jerez during that time, although he married a Pinedo. Both my Pinedo and Rojas lines go back one more generation from there, but that's all I have the names without any places or dates.

As an interesting side note, I think the first governor of Zacatecas in the Mexican Republic was called Jose Maria Rojas. Not sure if there is any relation.

This was actually one of the topics that I wanted to get to as soon as I became a member on here. I noticed that you had asked in a post months ago for a list of regiments from Zacatecas. To note, it is possible many of our Zacatecas ancestors served in the state militia or national guard as Zacatecas touted a rather large force during the era of President de Santa Ana, at its height in the 1830's it is estimated to have stood at 17,000 men.

I have not found any particular Zacatecas national guard or militia unit that served during the Mexican-American war, considering no fighting took place near Zacatecas. However, there were numerous engagements for Zacatecas during la guerra de la reforma during the late 1850's and once again during the French intervention in the 1860's.
I have yet to find the specific regiments of this era though.

hello,
I live in México City, and it sounds quite interesting, please foward me the
response and I will gladly translate it to you and maybe look for your
photo if I am allowed.

Regards.
Patty

On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 10:37 PM, Chris Pineda wrote:

> I wanted to thank the person who suggested that we email the following
> email (archivo@mail.sedena.gob.mx) for information about relatives who
> served in the Mexican military. I sent an email on July 31 and got a
> response back today that indicated they do have such information on my
> ancestor.
>
> While my Spanish isn't that great, I think the letter says that it
> authorizes me to see the actual records in Mexico city, and take a digital
> photo of them, but not a photocopy because they are too delicate. Did
> anyone else get a response like this? While I'm excited about this new
> potential source of information because I thought the trail on my Pineda
> line had gone cold, I'm not really in a position to fly to Mexico city

Hi Chris ,

My name is Welester G. Alvarado , no thanks are requiered it was my pleasure to pass on this information glad it was of use l

.

Have you tried to ask them to make you a copy and mail it to you ? Or ask them if there´s anyone that they may know who can take the foto maybe for a small fee .

Good luck ,

Welester

> I wanted to thank the person who suggested that we email the following email (archivo@mail.sedena.gob.mx) for information about relatives who served in the Mexican military. I sent an email on July 31 and got a response back today that indicated they do have such information on my ancestor.
>
> While my Spanish isn't that great, I think the letter says that it authorizes me to see the actual records in Mexico city, and take a digital photo of them, but not a photocopy because they are too delicate. Did anyone else get a response like this? While I'm excited about this new potential source of information because I thought the trail on my Pineda

I think its "Padre no conocidos" which means the son of uknown people....it is possible he was fromsomewhere else where the priest did not know. Did you check informacion matrimonial too?I have had some cases with this and it usually means dead end. Its also very common withnative american ancestries based on my researched in early aguascalientes films.
-Daniel

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Segun este libro
Aguascalientes, guía para visitar la ciudad y el estado Escrito por Alejandro Topete del Valle
Fallecido Martel, pasaron estos dos últimos solares a poder de sus padres, Luis
González y Beatriz Gallegos, quienes tenían una deuda de ...

SALVADOR CABRAL VALDES

Accidentalmente tropese con esto.  Que probablemente ya lo tengas.
 
Martel Hernando.
The son of Pedro de Huerta and Maria Gonzalez de Ruvalcaba. His parents were residents in the juridiction of teocaltiche, Jalisco in 1603.
 
Martel Hernando.
The son of Pedro Gonzalez y Maria Frias. He married Beatriz de Villegas on 22 Oct 1634 in Aguascalientes. The witnesses were Diego Sanchez y Gabriel Lopez.
 
Martel Juana.
The daugheter of Pedro Gonzalez and Maria de Frias. She married Miguel de la Sierra on 19 Sep 1613 in Aguas..  The witnesses were Bautista Conte and Luis Gonzalez and Juan Ximenez.
 
pag. 135  del libro de Ross-Hardy  " San Gabriel Valley Families of Nueva Galicia".
 
......espero te ayude.

--- On Tue, 8/18/09, bill_figueroa@usa.net wrote:

From: bill_figueroa@usa.net
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Hernando Martel, fundador de Lagos
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 3:49 PM

Hola compañeros,

Busco información de HERNANDO MARTEL

Sagrada Mitra de Guadalajara. Parrafo 1172, pagina 219.
 
Aguascalientes, Ags. Febrero 12 de 1721.- Dispensa de tercer con cuarto grado de consanguinidad.- Juan Gonzalez, español de 27 años de edad, vecino de esta Villa de Aguascalientes en el Barrio de Triana. hijo legitimo de Salvador Gonzalez, difunto y de Catharina Ramirez; con Juana Luera, española de 22 años de edad, vecina de esta villa en dicho barrio, hija legitima de Jacinto de Luera y de Theresa *Martel*. Declaración del pretenso:  Luis Gonzalez, padre de mi padre y abuelo mío, fué hermano carnal de Hernando o Fernando Martel, bisabuelo de la contenida Juana de Luera. Se otorgo la dispensa en la Villa de Xerez, en 19 de Febrero de 1721.  12 fojas.
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Teresa Martel. En el Archivo Histórico de Aguascalientes se encuentra un documento adjunto a los fechados en 1679 que menciona a Nicolas Gutierrez y a

Hola Bill, no se si este Hernando Martel sea el mismo del que tu estas hablando, pero en el Libro de Genealogias de Nochistlan por Jose Luis Vasquez y Rodriguez de Frias en la pagina 214, estan los Hijos de este personaje, si acaso es el mismo.
Padres Hernando Martel y Beatriz de Villegas.
Hijos:
Miguel Martel, fue bautizado el 18 Oct 1645 en Aguascalientes y caso el 28 Feb 1673 en Aguascalientes con Mariana de Morales ( o de Acosta).
 
Maria Martel, bautizada 31 May 1648, Aguascaleintes.
 
Teresa Martel. Bautizada 23 Feb 1651.En Aguscalientes.
 
Fernando Martel. Posible hijo de este matrimonio. El 3 de Junio 1690 en Aguascalientes.
Hay mas detalles en esta misma hoja, espero que te ayude. 
celestino villalobos.

--- On Tue, 8/18/09, bill_figueroa@usa.net wrote:

From: bill_figueroa@usa.net
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Hernando Martel, fundador de Lagos
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 3:49 PM

Hola compañeros,

Busco información de HERNANDO

En libros de
Google teclea el nombre y se encuentra el nombre de un hijo Hernando Gallegos
Espero sea Hernando Mare que Buscas
In Aguascalientes lived the marriage of Luis González and Beatriz Gallegos. She died 4 Oct 1643 and he was buried 16 Dec 1658. Don't know who were their parents. Have their children, several of whom married.
A son of theirs was Hernando Martel the only offspring that used the surname. Born c.1612, his matrimony was 22 Oct 1634 to Beatriz Macías Valadés (also named Beatriz de Retamosa and Beatriz de Villegas in some of the records), the daughter of my ancestors, Pedro Macías Valadés y Retamosa and Luisa de Villegas. Her christening was 2 Jan 1619 and her burial 8 Nov 1669-"no testó por pobre." Hernando still lived in April of 1685. Eight children (six wedded) used the surname Martel with variations, such as Martel y Retamosa, Martel de Villegas. The González from the paternal grandfather was shelved, or locked up in the trunk. They didn't revert to

In fact it is so.

Pioquinto Carmona and Lorenza Lopez had at least:

1. MARIA LUCIA CARMONA LOPES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 16 OCT 1827 La Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico
2. APOLONIO CARMONA LOPEZ - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 12 APR 1830 La Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico
3. PRUDENCIA CARMONA LOPES - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 29 APR 1822 La Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico
4. JUAN NEPOMUCENO CARMONA LOPEZ - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 18 MAY 1825 La Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico

Name: Juan Nepomuceno Carmona Lopez
Gender: Male
Christening date: 18 May 1825
Christening place: La Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico
Residence: Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico
Birth date:
Birthplace:
Death date:
Name note:
Race or color (expanded):
Father's name

Looking at the Pilot program, put in Reyes for the last name and Felis for the father's first name and enter Jalisco, Mexico in the location field

I found a Paula and the same parents have another daughter married to a Mariano Romo
Hmmmmmm? I would suspect this might be the right family. But it needs further research

Groom's name: Estevan Silva
Groom's birthdate: 1839
Groom's age in years: 36
Bride's name: Paula Reyes
Bride's birthdate: 1845
Bride's age in years: 30
Marriage date: 06 Jan 1875
Residence: Encarnación de Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico
Marriage place: Encarnación De Díaz, Jalisco, Mexico
Groom's father's name: Antonio Silva
Groom's mother's name: Juana Landin
Father of bride's name: Felis Reyes
Mother of bride's name: Gregoria Ornelas
Bride's marital status: Widowed
Batch number: M60269-5
Record group: Mexico-EASy
Film number: 1155499
Collection: Mexico Marriages 1700-1900

Groom's name: Mariano Romo
Bride's name: Leocadia Reyes
Marriage date: 05 Nov 1863
Residence: Encarnación

Nora Cossyleon
I would like to write a letter to the Genealogical Society in Utah re: extracting records from Zacatecas. I think everyone needs to be proactive!

Maria,

Lo mismo nos paso con mi papa. Lo bueno fue que encontramos el partido de
bautizo. Pero por lo civil el no existe.

-Angelina-

Hola tengo Francisco y Dorotea en mis datos. Ellos se casaron 3 sep 1718. No he

investigado much en esta rama pero he tenido el sospecho que Juana de Ornelas

es hija de Geronimo de Ornellas y Hurtado de Mendoza y su esposa Maria Rubio.

No lo tomos por seguidad pero es que he pensado. Al momento tengo muchos

otros proyectos que estoy llevando a cabo. Ojala que ten ayua. sABES SI ERAN

ESPANOLES? SI ESTO ES EL CASO, ES PROBLAMENTE SON LOS MISMOS. CASILLAS CABRERA

YA QUE YA ESTABAN ESTLABECIDOS EN AYOTLAN. -DANIEL

tAMBIEN TENGO ESTO

Bartolo Roman

Sex: M

Event(s):

Christening: 24 Aug 1738

Place: Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico

Parents:

Father: Francisco CASILLAS

Mother: Figenia de la Cruz

Source Information:

Batch Number: C603872

Source Dates: 1698 - 1739

Film or Fiche Number: 38586

Collection Details: San Jose de Analco; Catolica

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