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Pedro:

Por favor danos mas datos sobre las personas exactas que estas buscando... nombres, fechas, familiares, etc.

Para hacer investigacion seria no se puede simplemente buscar "un apellido" ya que estos cambiaban a lo largo del tiempo y hay algunos que eran demasiados comunes para poder seguir un linaje atraves de solamente el apellido.

Conoces los siguintes dos libros?
Historia de Juanchorrey y Tepetongo,
Zacatecas
Robles
de la Torre, José León

Filigranas, fundaciones y genealogias, Tepetongo,
Zacs.
Robles
de la Torre, José León

Puede ser que tengan informacion de sus ancestros.

Do you know of the following two books?

Historia de Juanchorrey y Tepetongo,
Zacatecas
Robles
de la Torre, José León

Filigranas, fundaciones y genealogias, Tepetongo,
Zacs.
Robles
de la Torre, José León

It might be that they have information about your two ancestors.

Robles de la Torre, J. L. (2008). *Historia de Juanchorrey y Tepetongo,
Zacatecas*. Torreón, Coah., México: [s.n.].

Robles de la Torre, J. L. (1999). *Filigranas, fundaciones y genealogías,
Tepetongo, Zacs*. Torreón, Coah: Editorial del Norte Mexicano.

Saludos desde lago Salado,

Greetings from Salt Lake City,

Eduardo H Seoane

My apologies for posting a bad transcription. I never would have read the first letter as an S. Even in the following baptism the S for Savino and Severa are different. Also this is the first time to learn of the name Sostenes.

Since I had transcribed Sostenes incorrectly I went back and looked at Adrian better and compared the A's and M's within the same and against other baptisms from the same priest. I also did a pilot search and the name Aldrico comes up a couple of times - http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#searchType=standa… The two results for Ags. with Aldrico as the father are most likely the siblings of Maria Lopes. Florencio's father is definitely Aldrico 23 June 1857 Image 131 Entry 336.

Armando

Okay Im a mjaor genealogist when it comes to Calvillo.

It is Sostenes Duran. The grandpa is more diffucult I found their marriage possibly. Yes, I just look up their

marriage it looks the same name, it looks like Enrico?. It turns out Sostenes is my relative, Wowo! Thanks It helps both of us.

"En Calvillo.... 16 de nov. de 1854...a Enrico Lopez, hijo natural de Jose Maria Lopez y ???? Cervantes

....Ma. Sostenes Duran hija de Anastasio de Duran y Florentina (Ruiz de) Esparza. The bride's parents

are my ancestors. -Daniel (hope this helps). The good thing abut this record it says my ancestors were

dead already. So this trims the search party.

IGI Individual Record
FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0

Mexico

Search Results | Download | Print

MARIA SOSTENES DURAN
Pedigree

Female

Family

Event(s):

Birth:

Christening:

Death:

Burial:

Marriages:

Spouse:
ENRICO LOPEZ
Family

Marriage:

16

I found the document at http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#c=1502404;s=waypo… then I saved it to the hard drive then I opened it in Picasa then I cropped it so the jpg would only have María Luz's info. Then I maximized it with Picasa Photo Viewer and it kind of looked something like Madriano and Josfina Duran. Then I challenged my wife to decipher it. We agreed he tried to write Adriano and Justina Duran.

Armando

Mooskies(sorry, I didn't see any other name),

It looks like the Abuelos Maternos are Adrian y Sostenes Duran

-Angelina-

It seems Fresnillo has the parroquia for the area, La Purificación.

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/printing/titledetail…

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/printing/titledetail…

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#searchType=standa…

Armando

I agree. Just as important; however is entering the documentation into your family tree software database. It can be tedious, but it will save lots oF time.
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I will probably suggest this a thousand times to "the group", make sure to document where you get your information from. Here is an example:
Repository, Record type, Individual, Date, Film No., Item No., Volume No., Page No., Record No. (all this information might not be available e.g. missing page number, missing volume number, etc.)

I am the first to admit I have not always done this and occasionally, even now I forget to do it. One thing that I have learned is that it wastes a lot of time and money not to do it.

If this

Thanks for the notification. Unfortunately they all seem to only be for San Pedro Apóstol, Cuajimalpa.

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#c=1615259;p=collectionDetails

Armando

Maria:

I am not sure which version of the LDS database you are using, but if you are using the pilot, a name comes up even if the name appears as an ancillary person (parent or grandparent) of the record in which it appears.

What information do you have on Deciderio Tinajero? If you don't have a baptism or marriage record for him, how do you know he was from San Felipe? You will have to find one of those documents that pertains specifically to him (as opposed to his name appearing as an ancillary person) in order to find his birthdate, birthplace and names of his parents.

If he was baptizing a son in 1844, he was likely born in in the 1800-1820 timeframe. But he could have been born somewhere other than Guanajuato. It might make sense to try to find his marriage record first if you know his child's mother's name and one assumes they were married.

Edward Serros

I agree with Linda. I find Reunion very easy to use. The ancestral charts that can be created are amazing. There will always be a learning curve with any software, but if you like Macs, you will like Reunion.

Daniel,

The form can be found on-line - here is the link. In case it doesn't work
you can access if from the Family Search home page - simply click on the
word "forms" under "Start Your Family History" then scroll down until you
find a form called "Request for Photocopies - IGI and Sources"

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Search/Rg/frameset_rhelps.asp?Page=./re…

Esther is right - the form says to allow 4-6 weeks for delivery. Lately it's
been closer to the 6 weeks but I have received them as quickly as 2 weeks.

Hope this helps.

-Angelina-

Noe...My grandmother Fidela/Fidelia was born about the same time frame as your mother. After reading several films, I found
her..... her name was spelled
"Efidelia"...so, perhaps just adding an "E"
may help you locate her.
Lots of luck.../hs

 
I would appreciate any assistance in finding documents, records or pedigree charts regarding my mother, Fidela (or Fidelia) Martinez born April 24, 1916 in Concepcion del Oro, Zacatecas, Mexico to Maria de Jesus Martinez and Luis Camarillo.  Also any documents, records or pedigree charts for Maria de Jesus and Luis Camarillo.
Thank you.     Noe B. Calvillo, Austin TX

Did they immigrate to the United States? Where do you think they were living in 1920 and 1930? When and where was Fidela married and to whom?

Esther,

Thank you for the information but the record that you are referring to was submitted by an individual and is not part of the extraction projects of the LDS Church. Thus, it is less reliable unless the submitter has actual source information. These type of records say the following or something similar:

Messages: Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter.

All of the historical accounts I read list Miguel Hidalgo as having been born in Corralejo, Guanajuato. Although sometimes what is written in the history books is wrong one cannot prove or disprove a "historical fact" without evidence. I am by no means saying that he was not born where he is purported to having been born. What I am saying is that I would like some proof.

Recently a colleague and I found that the historical information on the parentage of a couple of historical figures was erroneous. Another

Hey David, could you give a bit more info acestorwise on Marcelino and Gila? My Esparzas came from

Media Luna. -Daniel

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Does anyone have a copy of the actual christening record for Miguel Gregorio Antonio Ignacio Hidalgo y Costilla? I have been searching for his christening record but have come up empty handed. I am aware of the transcript of about 1829 that is found online but I would like to look at the copy of the original, or if possible eventually the original. Does anyone have a copy or know where I can find one? Unfortunately the Genealogical Society of Utah did not film the dates of his christening. According to the transcript he was baptized in the parish of Cuitzeo de Los Naranjos and born in Corralejo. The Hacienda of Cuitzeo de Los Naranjos became a town in 1851 and the town is now known as Abasolo.

TEngo algo pero no se a quien buscas
SALVADOR CABRAL VALDES

http://familiahidalgopena.blogspot.com/
El nombre completo de Hidalgo es Miguel Gregorio Antonio Ignacio Hidalgo y Costilla?

Don Miguel Hidalgo procreó cinco hijos: Agustina, Cristóbal, Mariano Lino, María, Micaela y Joaquín Hidalgo y Costilla?

SALVADOR CABRAL VALDES

Could you sent me some of your work? I am very interested in this topic!
-Daniel
mendezdelcamino@live.com

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Geneanet at http://www.geneanet.org/ is one I like it.

Armando

I uploaded my FamilyTreeMaker online to Ancestery.com for free. It's great because I can invite anyone to view it and contribute. I upload photos galore, write stories in it and can even upload video, etc.

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> Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 01:03:04 -0800
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Looking for a good and free/cheap family history website to share my family history
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Hola Alessandro ,

De nuevo , muchas gracias mi prima y yo somos los unicos en nuestros familias que nos interesa la genealogia . Yo por mi papa que es la abuela de mi prima los Alvarado , Almaguer y Audrey por los Alvarado y Vitela .

Toda via hay mucho que investigar pero gracias a ti estamos mas adelantado .

Welester

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> Welester, fue un placer poder ayudarlos en su investigación, esa fue una contribución de mi parte además que probablemente estemos relacionados en algun punto pues el apellido es muy particular.
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> Tambien, debo agregar, que asi como otras personas me han ayudado a mi en otras cosas, mucho o poco, yo quise regresar el favor de igual manera.... "Hay que dar para poder recibir", yo espero que alguien tenga la buena voluntad también de ayudarme a mi sin singun interes de por medio más que "compartir". Lo digo de corazón.
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> De hecho, de no ser por tu intervención quiza ella y yo nunca hubieramos estado en contacto, eres

Te voy a mandar los dos registros bautismales por coreo electronico de las niñas que nacieron en Tesistan. Los bautismos de ellas son los mas antiguos de los que se encuentran en la computadora pero eso no quiere decir que no hay otros hijos bautizandose ahi. Como veras son hijas legitimas y hay una gran probabilidad que encontraras el Matrimonio ahi de sus padres o en Zapopan. Como ya has de saber la parroquia de Tesistan es vicaria de Zapopan. La información en los registros de defunción no siempre esta correcta, ya que normalmente es uno de los hijos ó nietos que proporcióna la información y no estaban precentes en el evento (nacimiento). Pero si es el caso que Juana Villareal Salas realmente nacio en Jalapa en 1877 entonces buscaria el matrimonio de sus padres ahi en lugar de tesistan ó Zapopan.

Hola Alessandro ,

Soy Welester G. Alvarado , gracias por la informacion que le mandaste a mi prima Audrey sobre su abuelo Vitela .

Welester

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Do you know where and when Juan Villarreal got married to Dionisia Salas? Did they get married in Tesistan, Jalisco, Mexico?

In Teocaltiche...

In Teocaltiche you will not be allowed to handle the church records, you
will have to submit a list of names and dates that you are interested in.
Personnel there are very courteous and helpful, they will tell you when to
come back to pick up whatever copies of documents you request. Do not
expect to get results the same day you request them, most of the time it
will take a couple of days or longer.

The main Plaza is undergoing some remodeling, and at the present time, most
of the ground covering is being replaced. Lot of construction and
beautification work is under way and it look like all the work might not get
finished for the "11 de Noviembre" fiesta.

Suggest to your cousin a side trip to Santa Ana to visit Santo Toribio
Romo's Church, just outside of Jalostotitlan. Jalos is just about 40 minutes
from Teocaltiche and also about the same distance to San Juan de Los Lagos.
Both side trips are very intersting , enjoyable and doable in one day

Um, Los Altos is beautiful, he prob wont be able to go everywhere, theres just so much. As to Teocaltiche, visit the local church,

if you have the exact date you can get an official copy of the record which is nice to have. I descend from the same De Soto family of Teocaltiche. They are the first family to have known live in the settlement known as Paso de Soto and to the north in Calvillo there is also another town called Arroyo de Soto. My ancestor Arcadia de Soto came from "a distuingished'' alteno family. Segun su padre don Mateo de Soto had much influence in Teocaltiche and Calvillo where the family owned much land. According to my grandfather don Mateo de Soto lived in a nice house accross the church in the plaza, not sure if the original house still stands? He doesnt know which house exactly his grandfather is a son of dona Arcadia. This is where the Camino Soto family came from; when don Mariano de Camino y Martinez married dona Arcadia de Soto y Frausto. Lagos is very nice

Hello,

Can you please e-mail me, I would like to talk to you one on one. Here is my e-mail angelrcervantes@yahoo.com

This is in regards to your Cervantes family line.

Thanks,
Angel R. Cervantes

Have you searched for the border crossings of your relatives? They often have additionsl information as to the location where the ancestors came from see, Ancestry.com for the digital copies. They often have pictures, especially the more recent ones. I'll give you some more hints later I have to go.

Evelyn,

Disregards my previous message. I thought these records were from
Aguascalientes, and just realized that they are from UNION DE SAN ANTONIO in
JALISCO, some 50 miles from Aguascalientes. I have no knowledge of this
area. Sorry if I mislead you.

BILL FIGUEROA