el papalote

el papalote

where did you find this information? It looks great as far as finding
the names of all the Ranchos that are in existence. Can you share the
URL with the group?



thanks,



joseph







Jonathan Walker wrote:

el papalote

Is there anyone researching San Juan de Los Lagos/Jalostotitlan who 
knows anything about El Papalote?  My hunch is that it's a rancho, 
and I'm curious whether a map of ranchos in that area is available 
and if resources exist to help us learn their history.

Any help is appreciated and I apologize if this has been covered 
before.  I'm often overwhelmed with the amount of information that 
comes our way.

Alice      


Salt Lake Trip

After, a question from Joseph, I wanted to
clarify, my earlier post. 

 

If you just want a copy, of the
record e-mailed, to you.  There will be no charge, for the
lookup.  But if you want a paper copy or a disc, sent to you.  My
usual fee of $15.00 per record, applies.

 

So, once again, I'll be in Salt Lake on the 8th
of May.  And if anyone needs a record lookup, let me know.

 

Thanks,

Jonathan Walker
1140 North 230 West
Logan,
Utah 84341

 

DNA Testing

That is the way I feel.  I have discovered so much, and I have written it down.  I have shared my information with the family, and I find myself now in a position that everyone is sending me photos, stories, and stuff.  I am loving it!

 

I too feel that I am in a race against time.

Joseph Puentes <makas@...> wrote:

well yes I am interested if I have any Jewish blood in me. but mainly I'm wanting to see if I might be related to others in the FamilyTreeDNA Mexican Surname project or to anyone in their database in general. I also have strong suspicions I'm related to a few people in the group and would love it if they were to join the project so we'd know for sure and maybe it would motivate us in how we persue our research.

I'm also wanting to get several of my relatives to take the test just to establish our genes for future generations to compare to.

My whole thing about this genealogy "thing" is to do as much work as I can before I die. I want to leave things as "tidy" as I can so someone coming after me 10 generations from now will be able to pick up and start from where I left off. I figure it can't hurt to leave as many organized clues and "leads to further info" as
possible.

joseph

Dan Solis wrote:



Joseph,


   What are you hoping to find?  Any idea?  My mother and uncle (her bother) had DNA testing done and the results is that they have European Jewish genes.  My mother's family tree goes thru Mexico, Spain, France and Germany. 


 

New Search Engine: Amazon


this search engine is part of the Google system but not as thorough. but
it has that added feature of "look inside the book" try it and see. Add
a term like "jalisco" to the search then after the results come up look
to the right and click on the "look insde the book" option and you get
books that have that search parameter in the book.


http://a9.com/

joseph



Dispensas Matrimoniales



Steven,



thanks so much for the explanation. I'm sure that this information if
diligently utilized will result in many of us advancing our genealogies
significantly. I've looked at one of these films for the 1819 period
and saw the possibility of finding a gold mine of information.



I'm in the process of getting ready for a trip to DC to see an art
exhibition at the National Gallery of Art on the Mayas and a a trip to
the Library of Congress and possibly to NARA. Any one of those deserves
a month long visit so spending partial days at each might prove to be
frustrating so we'll see how it goes. I said all that only to say that
I have several questions about this subject but don't have the time to
ask them now. In the next week or so I'll get my thoughts together and
see if we can get the group involved in a discussion on this very very
important source of information. In the meantime this subject is on the
floor and has been opened for discussion. I'm sure many of you are just
itching to ask your many questions and share your various comments. The
iron is hot. . .pegale!



joseph



ps: quick one: I've noticed that in the "Informacion Matrimonial"
films that some of  what appear to be "dispensas" are recorded there.
If those indeed are dispensas recorded locally in the parishes can we
expect to find another copy of the same dispensa in Guadalajara? Or
might they only be recorded in the local parish? Or might these not be
dispensas at all but some other information related to the Pre-Marriage
Investigation? These records that I found had the genealogical diagrams
similar to the ones you gave as examples showing the relationships
between the couple. I can give more specific information later if
needed.

 



Pacorro73@... wrote:

New file uploaded to ranchos

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ranchos 
group.

  File        : /Steven Hernández's Stuff/Dispensation 1799 Data.doc 
  Uploaded by : capitan_paco <Pacorro73@...> 
  Description : Hernández Gamiño Dispensation - 25 March 1799 

You can access this file at the URL

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos/files/Steven%20Hern%80%A0%A0%E1ndez%27s%20Stuff/Dispensation%201799%20Data.doc 

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit

http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files

Regards,

capitan_paco <Pacorro73@...>
 




DNA Testing

Cool about your brother. I wish I knew him better as all that computer
stuff sounds great. Anyway mandale un que tal from me.



as for the procedure its very painless. Some morning you don't eat or
drink and immediately take this scraper and vigoriously scrape the
inside of your cheek. After about a minute you take the "residue"
that's on the scraper and insert the tip and all in the collection vial
and push and the whole tip gets injected into the solution. You cap it
and wait a few hours and do it again making sure you haven't eaten for
an hour or so before the other collection. Details are on the website
http://www.familytreedna.com/ they have a nice set of tutorial videos
and give info on the male/female testing question.



and yes I'll let you all know what my results are,



joseph







Irma GomezLucero wrote:


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DNA Testing

well yes I am interested if I have any Jewish blood in me. but mainly
I'm wanting to see if I might be related to others in the FamilyTreeDNA
Mexican Surname project or to anyone in their database in general. I
also have strong suspicions I'm related to a few people in the group
and would love it if they were to join the project so we'd know for
sure and maybe it would motivate us in how we persue our research.



I'm also wanting to get several of my relatives to take the test just
to establish our genes for future generations to compare to.



My whole thing about this genealogy "thing" is to do as much work as I
can before I die. I want to leave things as "tidy" as I can so someone
coming after me 10 generations from now will be able to pick up and
start from where I left off. I figure it can't hurt to leave as many
organized clues and "leads to further info" as possible.



joseph



Dan Solis wrote:


cite="">


style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Joseph,


style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">   What are you hoping to
find?  Any idea?  My mother and uncle (her bother) had DNA testing done
and the results is that they have European Jewish genes.  My mother's
family tree goes thru Mexico, Spain, France and Germany. 


style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> 


style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Needless to say, it was
an eye opener.  It also shed some light in many areas, like customs,
receipts, and family oral stories.  Currently, I am researching
Sephardi traditions.  So far, I have found many similarities.


style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"> 

DNA Testing

 

How exciting, this DNA testing.  As a Villarreal, I have been following Danny's research for a long time.  I happen to know Ed Villarreal, and have not seen him for over 20 years.  You guys helped me get in touch with him again.

 

Esperanza

DNA Testing


Joseph,


   What are you hoping to find?  Any idea?  My mother and uncle (her bother) had DNA testing done and the results is that they have European Jewish genes.  My mother's family tree goes thru Mexico, Spain, France and Germany. 


 


Needless to say, it was an eye opener.  It also shed some light in many areas, like customs, receipts, and family oral stories.  Currently, I am researching Sephardi traditions.  So far, I have found many similarities.


 


Please keep us inform with your results.


 

Hacienda de Cedros

Saludo Cesar,



no se si estas estudiando la informacion de la iglesia LDS pero hay
mucha informacion desde Cedros:


Title

Registros parroquiales, 1700-1919

Authors

Iglesia Católica (Cedros, Zacatecas) (Main Author)

Notes

Microfilme de manuscritos el en archivo de la parroquia de San
Gregorio Magno en Mazapil.

Incluyen registros parroquiales de otros pueblos cercanos.

Algunos de los libros incluyen índice.

La capilla en Cedros es auxiliar de la parroquia de San Gregorio Magno
en Mazapil.

Parish registers of baptisms, marriages and marriage petitions, and
deaths from Cedros, Zacatecas, Mexico.

Subjects

Mexico, Zacatecas, Cedros - Church records

Format

Manuscript (On Film)

Language

Spanish

Publication

Salt Lake City : Filmado por la Sociedad Genealógica de Utah, 1980

Physical

en 10 carretes de microfilme ; 35 mm.

DNA Testing

This is not directly related to our geographical areas of research but
of general importance to our geneological advancement



Just wanted to share this message sent to me by George Gause on DNA
testing. It is so interesting that connections were made and now they
are striving to make the paper connection. I became part of the DNA
testing project about 3-4 weeks ago. My results are not back yet but
I'd like to encourage some of you to be part of this project as well.



joseph



================================

Villarreal DNA Testing Match

SHHAR Website

I just wanted, to let you all know that the
SHHAR group, just updated their website.  They publish the "Somos Primos"
newsletter.

 


 

Thanks,

Jonathan Walker
1140 North 230 West
Logan,
Utah 84341

 

Hacienda de Cedros

Buenas Tardes Amigos:

El presente es para preguntar sobre el origen de la Hacienda de 
Cedros cercana a Mazapil, Zac., mi Bisabuela Sabina Aguirre nacio en 
esa hacienda, siendo hija de Macario Aguirre y Soledad Sanchez. 
Desafortunadamente no he encontrado ni matrimonio de Mariano y 
Soledad y menos sus actas de Bautizo.

Si alguien tiene ascendencia de esta hacienda favor de ponerse en 
contacto conmigo..

Cesar G