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another interesting book to research:

LC Control Number: 	 2001397579
Type of Material: 	Book (Print, Microform, Electronic, etc.)
Personal Name: 	González Muro, José Cupertino.
Main Title: 	Crónica de Tepetongo / José Cupertino González Muro.

Published/Created: Tepetongo, Zacatecas : [Ayuntamiento de Tepetongo],
2000.

Description: 	92 p. ; cm.

Summary: A study of the history and culture of a municipality in
Zacatecas (founded 1596) by the city's official historian. Sections
include indigenous presence, the role of the church, political and
economic development, education and religious festivals.

Other System No.: 	(NcChMN)MN200ZC041
Quality Code: 	pcc

I'm not sure anyone is Looking in Ameca, Jalisco. But if anyone is here
is a good looking book for you:

Ameca, protofundación mexicana / Jesús Amaya.
LC Control Number: 	89206083
Type of Material: 	Book (Print, Microform, Electronic, etc.)
Personal Name: 	Amaya Topete, Jesús, b. 1889.
Main Title: 	Ameca, protofundación mexicana / Jesús Amaya.
Edition Information: 	2a ed.

Published/Created: Guadalajara, Jalisco, México : Gobierno de Jalisco,
Secretaría General, Unidad Editorial, 1983.

Description: 	628 p. : ill. ; 21 cm.
ISBN: 	9688320188

Notes: "Apendice" (p. [341]-623) contains a biographical dictionary of
people and of places established in the region of Jalisco during the
conquest and the colonial eras.

Includes bibliographical references (p. 625-628).
Subjects: 	Ameca (Mexico)--History.
Jalisco (Mexico)--History.
Mexico--History--Spanish colony, 1540-1810--Biography.
Mexico--Biography.
Series: 	Colección Historia. Serie Documentos e investigación ; no. 7
LC Classification: 	F1296 .A58 1983
Dewey Class No.: 	972/.35 20
Geog. Area Code: 	n-mx---
	
CALL NUMBER: 	F1296 .A58 1983
Copy 1
-- Request in: 	Jefferson or Adams Bldg General or Area Studies Reading Rms
	
-- Status: 	Not Charged

Also, I forgot to tell you, there's no charge to enter the 
exhibition!

Probably many of you know about this already, but those who do not, 
and who live in California, I recommend you to visit the Los Angeles 
County Museum of Art. They are holding an exhibition of Mexican 
Casta Painting from the eighteen century. I think this is a very 
unique oportunity that you shouldn't pass, because this is one of 
the biggest gatherings of casta paintings, around 200, many of them 
from private collections. I went to visit the museum yesterday and 
was very delighted at seeing those paintings that reflect the 
lifestyles of the New Spain. Again, those of you who live in 
southern California, don't miss this opportunity. And those who do 
not live in California, take an airplane and enjoy this collection. 
They are going to be held at LACMA until August 8, and after that 
they are all going to different museums and private homes all around 
the world. To find more information, check the LACMA website at 
www.lacma.org and click on the link INVENTING RACE. They also offer 
a 200 page catalog aobut casta paintings, in both english and 
spanish.

Hey Joseph, I knew about that link already, but apparently this 
website was deleted some weeks ago. That's too bad because there was 
plenty of information about each municipio of Jalisco in that 
website.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, makas@n... wrote:
> 
> okay I've put up a bunch of pages for Ranchos in Jalisco, 
Zacatecas and 
> one for Aguascalientes
> 
> I've also found this website that has a search engine for a few 
other 
> pages that i don't have time to link to just yet.
> 
> http://www.e-local.gob.mx/enciclo/jalisco/mpios/14019a.htm

someone sent in a great URL quite awhile back something to the effect
of Family Ancestral something.

it had a great search engine to documents from the Durango Diocesis I
believe that incorporated mostly Northern Mexico but included some
things from Zacatecas.

If i've given enough information for someone to remember what I'm
talking about and send me the Lost URL again, I'd appreciate it very much.

thanks,

joseph. . .el viejito

Hello everyone. I am George Luna, a recent addition to the ranchos 
group. I started last July researching my family. I knew my 
grandparents names (Casimiro Luna and Maria Marquez) and that one of 
my uncles was born in Juanchorrey. My mother's side of the family
is from El Paso via Chihuahua so I excluded that side of the family 
in my file. Joseph's advice about oral history is great, but in my
case no one (my father and his three brothers and sister) didn't
want to talk about their father when I first got interested in 1973. 
I dropped the subject (a mistake, but I was busy with family and a 
career as a Math professor) until I semi retired (teaching one 
quarter per year). 

My father was born in Taft, California and one brother and sister in 
Arizona and Bakersfield, California, resp. I knew that my grandmother 
and the 5 children were deported to Mexicali in the early thirties 
and that they grew up in Tijuana, BC. My father was working in San 
Diego in 1943 when he was drafted (he was after all a U.S. citizen) 
into the Navy. He served in the Pacific on the destroyer USS Adams. 
He died in 1993. I was born in San Diego in 1940. 

I first found the family in the 1920 census. I also found
Casimiro's parents Macedonio Luna and Secundina Lopez in the same 
census. All were working in San Bernardino on the railroad. Since 
none of that side of the family is in the 1930 census, the online 
search was fruitless. That is when I went to Salt Lake City (I have 
been there three times, a week at a time) and discovered through 
census, baptism, marriage, and death records not only what happened 
to Casimiro and Macedonio (still can't find out about Secundina),
but a pedigree chart  with many de la Torre, Correa , Carlos, 
Gonzalez. I had on my chart a Andres de la Torre and his son Jose 
Maria de la Torre when I connected with the book: José León
Robles de laTorre, Filigranas, Fundaciones y Genealogias, Tepetongo, 
Zacatecas(Torreón, Coahuila: Editorial del Norte Mexicano, 1999). 
Many of the names and fragments coincided with what I had; only the 
Gonzalez portion has discrepancies that I need to check out. In any 
case, at least one direct line has been established to Diego de la 
Torre (born in Spain in 1482) cofounder of Guadalajara, Jalisco and 
first governor of Nuevo Galicia. There is an apt quote by the 
Mathematician Mordell that goes something like "it is the
ignorant 
miner who finds the nugget". 

Hi Jodiah,

I so much wish I lived close to Bancroft Library. Gloria Delgado sent me
a scan of a map of Jalisco she found at Bancroft. You might want to
check things out there as they have wonderful resources for the Mexican
Genealogist.

welcome to the group.

if i could lend one piece of advice that will serve you well in years to
come: Collect as much oral history as you can!!!

joseph



jodiahcastro wrote:

I am glad to have found this group and that Joseph has accepted my
request for membership!  I have been lurking here for 1 1/2 weeks and
have made good use of the message archive during that time.  Now I
feel it is time to introduce myself, and my research:

My name is Jodiah Castro and I live in Berkeley CA.  I am 29 years old
and have always been interested in where we have come from as a
family, although that interest only turned into actual research when I
decided to map my living relatives for an upcoming family reunion.  It
is so easy to know your elders as tio and tia, and to be told for many
years that all the kids are your cousins ;)  So I created a chart of
over 100 relatives descendant of my ggr-parents Malaquias Castro of
Mezquital del Oro Zacatecas (1895-~1923), and Librada Bedoya of
Arizona (1896-1981)  One thing led to another and six months later I

am seeing the insides of libraries I didnt even know existed!

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ranchos 
group.

  File        : /George Luna - luna@.../JuanLunaMarquez.rtf 
  Uploaded by : makas_nc <makas@...> 
  Description : Juan Luna Marquez 

You can access this file at the URL

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos/files/George%20Luna%20-%20luna%40calinet.com/JuanLunaMarquez.rtf 

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit

http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files

Regards,

makas_nc <makas@...>
 

I am glad to have found this group and that Joseph has accepted my
request for membership!  I have been lurking here for 1 1/2 weeks and
have made good use of the message archive during that time.  Now I
feel it is time to introduce myself, and my research:

My name is Jodiah Castro and I live in Berkeley CA.  I am 29 years old
 and have always been interested in where we have come from as a
family, although that interest only turned into actual research when I
decided to map my living relatives for an upcoming family reunion.  It
is so easy to know your elders as tio and tia, and to be told for many
years that all the kids are your cousins ;)  So I created a chart of
over 100 relatives descendant of my ggr-parents Malaquias Castro of
Mezquital del Oro Zacatecas (1895-~1923), and Librada Bedoya of
Arizona (1896-1981)  One thing led to another and six months later I
am seeing the insides of libraries I didnt even know existed! 

We are: Castro's, Bedoya's, Fuentes', Dominguez', Martinez', and
Valdez'.  Living from Hayward CA, east to the cities surrounding
Fresno.  Our Castro's came from Joaquin de Castro (1730-?) of San
Cristobal de la Barranca and Mezquital del Oro Zacatecas.  I havent
gotten nearly so far with the Bedoya's, only reaching Elijio Bedoya
(1834) of Ures Sonora. (he also may have been through Alta, and
Guaymas)

I am actively working on sourcing the ancestors I have already added
(currently at 398), and in fact have at least partialy frozen new
additions so that I can fill in some of the (numerous) empty spots in
my tree!

I look forward to working with the group and will be adding
information to my folder in the very near future, however if anybody
is curious about what I have so far you are welcome to view my tree
at:

http://www.jodiah.net/phpgedview

Thank you!

PS:  I had the oportunity to view the garcia-carraffa Heraldry volumes
that Joseph mentioned in a post a while ago, I didnt have enough time
to research them properly (there are something like 28 pages for
Castro) but I intend to go back soon to take digital photo's of
illustrations, photocopy the pages that he listed in his post, and
make scan's available for the group.

I have a niece whose name is Hermelinda - she was given this name because 
Catholics did not accept "Linda" as a proper first name, but Hermelinda was 
acceptable because there is a saint of that name?

Esperanza

Joseph,

When you look at the files and folders, there is a column 
labled 'creator'.  Only the creator can modify or edit the file or 
folder.  Those of us who created our own folder and uploaded our own 
files are able to make those changes.  If instead the person mailed 
their file to you {Joseph} and you {Joseph} created the folder and 
uploaded the files, then they cannot make the changes.  You {Joseph} 
as the moderator can modify any folder or file regardless of the 
creator.  The rest of us can't...

Ugh...Does that make sense...

Angie

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes <makas@n...> wrote:
> okay I'll have to look into this. I don't know why its not letting 
you 
> all do it. Can anyone in the group tell me of successfully being 
able to 
> edit your folder name to include your email address?
> 
> thanks Maria and Esther for notifying me about this. Maybe its 
something 
> to do with the options i picked to create the group. I'll have to 
have 
> another look when time permits.
> 
> thanks,
> 
> joseph
>

I, too, am having this problem.  I thought I was not reading the instructions correctly. 

I could not edit my file.

Please advise, Joseph.

Dora

I don't know if I am the only one having this problem,
but I am not able to go in and edit my file name.

     -Esther Valencia


--- makas@... wrote:
> 
> I have a very simple request if we each do our own
> small part. Or a 
> large job if I have to do it. I just worked on
> helping someone in the 
> group. but with over 50 members I can easily forget
> which profiles are 
> which names and thereby not know how to link the
> genealogies (listed 
> under the persons name to the person subscribed
> under a different profile.
> 
> here is what I'd like each of you to do:
> 
> 1) go to the files area
> 
> 2) if your genealogy is on this page go to the far
> right of your name 
> and click on the word "edit"
> 
> 3) when the window opens in the space called "Folder
> name" put your 
> email address next to your name.
> 
> 4) click "save changes"
> 
> 5) you're done
> 
> look at it and it should look like my folder or
> something similar to this:
> 
> Joseph Puentes' Ancestors makas@...
> 
> thanks,
> 
> joseph
> 
> 
> 


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